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  My experience today

  by leaving_quietly in

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  discussion with wife today led to her questioning whether i believe or not.

  i told her that i just can't roll over and accept everything new thing they say just like that.

  we were, of course, talking about the "new light".

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  Black Sheep

  You talk too much and she doesn't want to hear it. Ask questions instead. If she gives an answer that you know is contradicted in the Bible, the WT, or the secular source she is quoting make her feel she should read you the relevent document as soon as she finds it. Now would be good, you go make the coffee while she gets it.
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  Constructive feedback for AAWA leadership (IMHO)

  by besty in

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  1 - reconsider your existence - there might be a reason why the most effective resources to date have been solo efforts.

  2 - recognize that even well-intentioned organizations will firstly seek self-preservation.

  3 - be aware that egos and emotional stupidity have torn apart much grander edifices than aawa.

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  Black Sheep

  I haven't seen any criticism of any good works, Marvin. We all appreciate the hard work that has been done and use it in our own ways.
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  Is it GOOD that God KILLS BABIES??? Help needed in debate

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

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  2. bible

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  [endif]hello all,.

  my wife and i are atheists, raised and living as jehovah's witnesses.

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  Black Sheep

  Try not to do her reasoning for her.

  Ask a question then shut up and make her do all the talking. Keep asking yourself if she is really answering the question you asked, or is she tricking you into a change of subject?

  Give her a guilt trip for any tricks she tries. Feign being offended.

  Remember that you don't need to justify leaving as you haven't actually left. You want her to justify remaining with a church with this infanticidal god.

  Show her pictures of kids getting killed in wt pubs, especially pubs she raised you with and that she would have studied.

  You need her to tell you she has problems with her beliefs and she won't do that if you are doing all the talking, so practice a bit of shut up.
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  Public Apology Nathan Natas

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  i'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..

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  Poorly photoshopped image in the April WT-public edition?

  by Theocratic Sedition in

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  2. friends

  this image is on page 9 of the 2013 april public edition wt.

  is it me or has that long hair been digitally lengthened?

  the longer portion of his hair doesn't even blend with the hair closest to his roots.

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  Black Sheep

  I doubt they would have thought to photoshop the reflectors on the bikes
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  Neanderthals - Another Human Race?

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gone are the days of scoffing at ape men.

  it used to be you would have jws ridicule evidence of neanderthals existence.

  now the wt can't deny they existed so they say,well they were just another race of man.

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  Black Sheep

  They conveniently forget to mention that Trinkous also believes they were around 24,500 years ago.
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  Got an interview

  by LouBelle in

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  as some of you know, i had no job last year, then finally got something in an industry that i know nothing about.

  the environment and people haven't been the best, but i had to stick it out and hope that things would improve.

  i have kept my eye and ears open for opportunities more in my field of expertise - which is print advertising.. i sent through my cv for a job i saw advertised in the newspaper for an advertising sales rep - applied and now i have an interview to go too tomorrow.. i've learnt not to get my hopes up - i am glad for the interview and i hope it goes well..

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  Black Sheep

  Cool. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
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  Rutherford may have been right on one thing.....

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. bible

  i remember seeing a few years ago articles posted about the strange things published that is considered nonsense today.

  i remember one was him strongly opposed to anything with aluminum.

  it's becoming increasingly mentioned as that being a major link to several autoimmune diseases and alheimers/dementia/etc.

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  Black Sheep

  At least the rats got a feed.
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  AAWA has caused divisions and has lost the opportunity to be effective

  by NoRegrets in

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  here's the thing,.

  the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.

  period.

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  Black Sheep

  AAWA believes that the Watchtower promotes and enforces a range of damaging and overly-invasive teachings and practices that cannot be briefly summarized. However, in order to drive its message home more effectively and forcefully, AAWA chooses to focus on five key areas in which the Society must introduce urgent reforms. These are (in no particular order):

  1. The shunning of relatives
  2. The mishandling of cases of child abuse
  3. The mishandling of cases of domestic abuse
  4. The stigmatization of higher education
  5. The ban on certain forms of treatment with blood

  AAWA extends an open offer to the Governing Body of the Watch Tower Society (or their representatives) to meet with AAWA to discuss ways in which the organization can introduce much-needed reforms concerning the above core issues.

  http://jwactivists.org/who-are-we/

  Is changing a few policies that you don't like going to transform the Governing Body's sleazy little doomsday cult into something better?

  A person's having no desire to 'reform' the Watchtower and/or it's Head Honchos, doesn't mean they are not against the Watchtower, or that they are not doing their bit.
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  AAWA has caused divisions and has lost the opportunity to be effective

  by NoRegrets in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  here's the thing,.

  the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.

  period.

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  Black Sheep

  You make it sound like the ex community has somehow suffered as a result. I doubt it will change much. Just because someone doesn't join that group doesn't mean they will stop doing what they were already doing.